Wednesday, 13 June 2012

HOTT - Water Lurkers

Hawaiian Were-Shark Attacks!
Do you want the truth? I think they're broken.

Normal Lurkers can be deployed against an enemy that enters bad going. As the rules currently stand, every battlefield has to have a couple of pieces of bad going (and even my alternative system for random terrain makes it probable that there will be some bad going in play), so there's a chance that the Lurkers can see some action.

Water Lurkers have a bit of a problem, in that they can only deploy in water. If there are no aquatic features on the board, they will never appear.

The problem is, that if they do appear then they are better than normal Lurkers. Much better. And, if their player is defending, by making every piece of bad going a water feature such as a marsh or swamp, you can prepare plenty of territory for them to operate in.

Better than normal Lurkers? Well, yes. Elements that don't normally take a -2 for fighting in bad going (Beasts, Warband, Shooters and other Lurkers), and who therefore fight normally against conventional Lurkers, still take a -2 if fighting Water Lurkers.

So, whilst potentially useless if you are the attacker, they are worth more than 1AP if you are the defender. They also create the odd situation where if an army has but one Water Lurker in it, its home terrain seems to be a network of marshes, swamps, rivers and similar terrain. There's no reason for it not to be.

So here's a proposal.

Scrap Water Lurkers totally.

Treat them just  like any other Lurker. And vice versa. That is, they can appear in any bad going, not just water, and that ordinary Lurkers can be deployed in rivers. Allow them the 200p move in water that Water Lurkers currently get.

Lurkers are deployed exactly as currently described in the rules, with the addition that they can be deployed against an element which has just entered a river or lake.

Consider this; there are already Lurkers who, conceptually, are tied to a particular terrain type - woodland Dryads, for example - but who can appear in any area of bad going. The game quite happily allows woodland Dryads to pop out of an area of soft-sand in their opponent's desert home, for example. So adding water to the possible terrain in which things can appear isn't too much of a stretch. Ordinary Lurkers can already appear in marshes and swamps anyway, so in most games it's only rivers we're adding as possible ambush locations. And rivers often have tree-lined banks, rocks or other concealment; a Dryad capable of operating in an area of soft sand isn't going to find a river much of a challenge.

Conversely, it can be assumed that most areas of bad going will have some water associated with them even if it isn't depicted. That soft sand may have a hidden oasis, for example, or a steep hill a network of small streams and pools; insignificant in game terms, but each capable of housing a Lurker with an aquatic theme. The Watcher In The Water lurked in a mountainside lake; a steep hill, maybe.

In terms of combat factors, the automatic -2 for being in contact with a Water Lurker should be removed. However the following change should be included:

"An element crossing a river, and which has a Lurker, which is also in the river, in combat contact with any of its edges, counts as being in bad going."

So if you're an element type unaffected by bad going, such as Warband or Shooters, then this has no effect on your combat factors. Effectively being in contact with a Lurker in a river makes the river count as normal bad going for combat purposes.

It has been argued that this change removes a certain amount of flavour from the game, but really it just removes a fiddly and slightly fudged troop type, capable of being over-exploited by canny players, whilst still allowing the lovely elements people have created to be used. And, because the former Water Lurkers can now appear on any battlefield with any bad going, they will get used more often.

Comments welcome.


  1. I like your proposal. Dropping Water Lurkers and just having Lurkers would give players incentive to actually use these units, especially in water-themed armies. Personally, I love Lurker elements and use them at every opportunity (if they're appropriate for my army, but I can always come up with some rationale to include them), but not everyone feels the same way.

  2. You mean there's other types of Lurkers?

    1. Don't worry - all of them are at least marginally annoyed :)

  3. Isn't a simpler fix just to allow armies with Water Lurkers to also have an equivalent number of AP in other troop types as a stand-by if they become the attacker? Seems like a lot less overhead...?

    1. Not really. I'd just buy a Lurker as the alternative; if I attack I get a proper Lurker. If I defend I place loads of marshes and get to use my Lurker as a Water Lurker. I have all of the current advantages of a Water Lurker, and none of the downside.

  4. But your solution is the same as mine. Except I get to build and paint a water lurker stand, and keep it as an aside, and have no other rule changes, no? What am I missing?

    1. Not quite the same. In the current rules *any* element in contact with a Water Lurker fights at an automatic -2. And Water Lurkers can appear in conventional bad going so long as it's defined as aquatic (ie a marsh or swamp). So in conventional bad going they are significantly better than normal lurkers, and as the defender you can define all of your bad going as aquatic. My change above makes all lurkers the same, but allows all lurkers to deploy in rivers (the one unique deployment feature of current water lurkers), but with a modification to the factors that mimics the current penalty some elements have for fighting in bad going.

      Your solution simply allows a player to keep an element that's worth a lot more than 1AP if you are the defender, with no downside if you are the attacker.

      And you still get to paint a water lurker element, if that's how you want to choose to depict the lurker. Plus you get to use it whether you are the attacker or the defender and irregardless of whether there are any overt water features on the table.


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